DE Luke could probably take the first round with a far weaker ally than Darth Caedus. But x6shotrevolvers they’ve already fought and we already know the outcome! The garrote loosened a little. No more. Dooku isn't stalemating Tenebrous, Vader ain't doing any better tbh. Furthermore, because Luke was aiming to incapacitate Caedus in the most painful way he could think of in that moment, I feel comfortable saying that Luke was going into this fight completely unrestrained. And while it is true that using an eye gouge is an unsavory tactic, I believe Luke did so simply because he had no reservations about keeping the fight “fair” against Caedus. After the fall of the empire, he would go on to establish the New Jedi Order and eventually serve as its Grand Master. The fixture smashed into his head and shoulders, slamming his face into the deck. Ben was still strapped in the Embrace, but he had summoned the vibrodagger off the floor and was battling to cut himself free of the chair's lashing tentacles. -which Jacen ducked. First round, Plagueis dies. But even if he were somehow to forget, he was quickly reminded when Jacen pulled himself toward them. Skywalker planned to use the blood trail to set a trap for Caedus. Luke landed half a meter in front of Jacen's lightsaber and quickly beat down his nephew's guard-too quickly. And for the most part they seemed to have been in a stalemate where their bladework is concerned, relying instead on hand-to-hand combat to further wound each other. In my mind, the fact that Caedus was able to react at all to Luke’s attempted coup de grace, and readjust his defense in the middle of Luke’s thrust speaks volumes to Caedus own skill as a combatant. The garrote went completely slack. Which was exactly what Jacen was waiting for, of course. @thekinfing: Swap luke for Vader would be a hard but debatable match. In 19 ABY, Solo went with his mother and siblings to Shalam for a treaty signing, as Organa Solo hoped to expose the children to more high-level diplomacy. The rack's slender tendrils were tightening around Jacen, cutting into his flesh and oozing a yellowish irritant that made skin puff up and split. However, considering his fighting style is described as strong and aggressive, not to mention the fact he was trained by Luke Skywalker, it is most likely he is a practitioner of form Five. Luke whipped his lightsaber around, trying to cut Jacen off his back, but Jacen was already spinning away, tightening his garrote and placing Luke's body between himself and the deadly blade. He really doesn't. 3-year protection plan from SquareTrade - $2.99 3-year protection plan from SquareTrade - $2.99 Opens an information Overlay. One he foolishly squandered by taking his time to rise, unjustified in believing his power in the Force was enough to restrain Luke for as long as he wished. Kyle Katarn was a human male Jedi Battlemaster in Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order. Lumiya was one of Luke's greatest adversaries following Palpatine's demise, and … Luke had decades more experience as a Force user than Caedus. During the battle, Luke Skywalker pursued Caedus in a fierce duel in which both suffered severe injuries. It was better to attack quickly, while he still had the advantage. "I don't feel any Jedi presence at all, and if I don't, then neither do you-nothing real, anyway. Here Jacen once again successfully baited Luke into smashing down his guard before attempting to strangle him with one of the vines, avoiding his uncle’s strikes. Jacen's lightsaber droned twice, filling that corner of the torture chamber with flickering green light. @jedixman@the_imperator@juiceboks@deathstroke19@The_Deathstroker@jacthripper@elderskaar@oceanmaster21@precrisisbardock@decaf_wizard@darthsenju@amethystgravity@darthsenju@azronger@cull_obsidian, @americanspeeddemon@darthsenju@kingcurry30, @fetts@juiceboks@i_like_swords@jokerpoker, @dccomicsrule2011@fetts@jedixman@oceanmaster21, @dccomicsrule2011@fetts@americanspeeddemon. He sensed his father very near now, on the same deck and moving fast. The lightning never came. Secondly, as the fight commenced Luke and Caedus clashed with their blades several more times, during which the fighting was heated and inconclusive. "I'm afraid so, "he said. However, just how much weight Luke’s surprise attack had on the overall outcome of the fight is extremely suspect in my opinion. Luke has almost every conceivable advantage against Caedus (and most other Force users in the Star Wars universe for that matter.) Last Jedi ruined Luke Skywalker! The team has one lucky shot. Here again, Caedus was able to injure Luke, despite it being from a Force attack. Plagueis vs someone on Krayt's level and ROTJ Luke is a better fight. Darth Caedus (born Jacen Solo) is the main antagonist of The Legacy of the Force series. Luke dropped his lightsaber, bracing one hand against the other so he could use the strength of both arms to hammer his elbow up under Jacen's chin. Luke had barely started to turn before a loop of thin tendril slipped over his head and tightened around his throat, oozing toxin and cutting deep into the flesh. Luke immediately springs into an offensive flurry. Luke absolutely rapestomps Caedus. He played a major role in many major galactic events, such as the Killik Swarm incident, Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, and his eventual fall to the Dark Side, and attempt to conquer the galaxy. Just another video I made when I was stuck at home with the chicken pox. This video is about Ben Skywalker and his relationship with Jacen Solo (Darth Caedus) after Jacen kills his mother from the "Legacy of the Force" series. Even that small wound would have left most humans paralyzed with agony. Has tenebrous feats putting him above Dooku or Vader in sabers? Here both combatants vigorously exchanged lightsaber blows after Luke prevented the Sith Lord from fleeing the battle. Dooku gets rekt quickly, Vader puts up something resembling a good fight but loses. Here Caedus was able to once again dodge a mortal blow from Luke, then proceed to land a Force-enhanced punch into the exact spot he had earlier. You should probably bump Luke down to his ROTJ version, and give Luke an inferior teammate (Darth Krayt, or someone on his level). At least not in the sense that it was crucial for him to resort to this or be cut down by Caedus. He would abandon his name during this time, naming himself Darth Caedus. He was born during the final years of the Galactic Republic to the Force sensitive farmer Morgan Katarn and Patricia Katarn on the Outer Rim colonized moon Sulon. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. He is, in my opinion, the most skilled swordsman to ever live, and lastly, he was stronger in the Force than Caedus, both in terms of potential, and how much of this potential was realized. Match Up Monday. Luke feinted a dash toward his nephew's blind side, then-as Jacen pivoted to protect his injured eye-Luke hit him with a Force wave. I’m talking about a completely even 1v1 fight, in the first battle on the Anakin Solo, Ben stabbed Jacen and the Sith Lord was also distracted by his ship blowing up. The most sensitive of the three Solo children, Solo became a powerful Jedi Knight under his uncle Luke Skywalker's tutelage. Luke is the weak link, Caedus is below Plagueis by a decent margin, and Caedus+Tenebrous should be roughly on the same level. Luke has almost every conceivable advantage against Caedus (and most other Force users in the Star Wars universe for that matter.) Meanwhile, Ben Skywalker escaped from Galactic Alliance Guard custody and arrived with Tenel Ka Djo and the Hapan Home Fleetto protect the Jedi stronghold. Instead, Luke was blindsided by something heavy and spiky, and his body exploded into pain as he slammed into a durasteel wall. This is my final analysis of Caedus’s major battles during his brief incumbency as the Dark Lord of the Sith. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Here Luke himself admits that the injuries he’s sustained from his fight with Jacen are anything but superficial, and needed to end the conflict with the short amount of time he had left before he could no longer fight effectively. Luke was already throwing himself to the deck. Plagueis loses round one, though him and Tenebrous combined have a shot at winning round two. Caedus was able to mitigate most of the damage from the strike despite the surprise attack and I’m definitely of the belief that Luke is more than capable of dealing damage to Caedus without such tactics. Well, its finally finished. Darth Sidious(RoTJ) The Team RulesDark Empire Luke, Caedus at his Peak.The duo has perfect teamwork and are determined to win.The Emperor is in chara KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Denning on Darth Caedus or Darth Krayt vs Luke Skywalker DarthAnt66 Troy Denning is the author responsible for Invincible and Apocalypse, among many other works. Astonished and appalled, Luke put a little too much weight on his injured knee-and fell as it buckled. Luke followed up with a palm-heel to the same target, using the impact to drive himself away from his attacker and buy some maneuvering room. Second round, Dooku can barely contend with either and is thus the weak link. The … As soon as he entered the room, Luke became acutely aware of their presence, and I do not believe him to be so incompetent as to forget their presence. But Luke was attacking low, striking for the kidney to disable in the most painful way possible. Now that I just realized Dooku and Mace are also there... depends. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. Pretty even, but leaning towards Plagueis. Even if Luke hadn’t resorted to this, I don’t think Caedus would have come out on top in this fight. He was brimming with rage and other powerful emotions after seeing his son tortured by his nephew, the last thing he would be thinking is keeping the fight fair. "Wait!" Just prior to their clash, Luke entered the room --his presence in the Force concealed -- where Ben was being tortured in the embrace of pain. Caedus was fucking terrified of Luke and ran like a bitch. I honestly see Tenebrous winning due to the Force. Team Banite. As with most new Jedi Order characters, Darth Caedus's lightsaber form remains unknown, with it being very likely that he has knowledge in multiple forms. Luke struck again with his lightsaber, using both hands and putting all his strength into the attack, beating his nephew's guard down so far that Jacen's emerald blade bit into his own shoulder. The wound swelled and burned as if it were on fire. When the Rude Awakening was attacked by the Sith Meditation Sphere Ship, Luke Skywalker strapped himself into a medbay and traveled beyond shadows. He flipped his lightsaber down in the same moment Luke's met flesh. If they do, they should win. They probably won't play it like this, though. Knowing Jacen would strike despite the wound, Luke rolled over his throbbing knee and spun back to his feet with a clearing sweep. So the general opinion is that Plagueis doesn't stand a chance in round 1, any suggestions to make it closer? Jacen fought his way over anyway, placing himself squarely between Luke and the chair, then gave ground and vanished behind the green ribbons his lightsaber was weaving through the darkness. The tip sank a few centimeters, drawing a pained hiss as it touched a kidney, then Jacen's blade made contact and knocked it aside. However, this does not preclude Caedus from being in the same league as the grandmaster as a combatant (not necessarily a perfect equal), which I hope to show in the following analysis. If Luke wanted to finish this-and it seemed like a good idea, given how battered he was himself-he had only a few seconds. Last Jedi ruined Luke Skywalker! Instead of continuing to fight, he accelerated into the spin, using the Force to hurl them both into the nearest wall. The son of legendary Jedi Knight Sharad Hett and his wife K'Sheek, both of whom lived among the Tusken Raiders of Tatooine, he eventually became the Padawan of Jedi Masters Ki-Adi-Mundi, and later, An'ya Kuro. Ben's jaw dropped, and Jacen started to spin, snatching his lightsaber from his belt and igniting it in the same motion, bringing the emerald blade around high to protect his heart and head. This was supposed to hurt. Mara Jade was forced to slay the insane Jedi Master with the help of Luke Skywalker, who had been instantly relieved of the buzzing pressure in his mind after the death of his clone. Hope you like it. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. As I mentioned earlier, Luke surpasses Caedus in almost every respect. He arrived at the Lake of Apparitions, where he traveled across the Lake until he found the spirit of his wife, Mara Jade. He heard something crunch in his nose and was instantly choking on his own thick blood. After this point, Caedus was literally stabbed in the back by Ben, at which point the fight ended. The EU version was sooo much better. Serious Luke is a guy who's mastered his powers and come into his own. Dad's right behind you.". Jacen Solo is a fictional character in literature based on the Star Wars film series, set in what is now designated as the non-canonical Star Wars Legends continuity. Once Luke landed some hits with his elbows, and smashed the both of them into the wall with the Force he was able to break free from Caedus’s grasp. And therefore Luke can (and I’m paraphrasing here) “outduel and kill Caedus in three moves on a whim.” I can to a degree, understand why this argument has been made, though personally I find it to be a weak one. Jacen scrambled to his feet, barely bringing his weapon up in time to block a vicious downstroke. Giving his son no further chance to argue, Luke turned back to Jacen, who by now was almost free. However, I personally do not believe Luke using an eye gouge was an act of desperation. Only one leg remained caught, though it was still entwined in a half a dozen places. Another Skywalker that turned bad again happens to be the son of Han and Leia and was created by Timothy Zahn in his book series. Here Jacen was able to dodge a possible death blow from his uncle. If you believe Jacen dodging an attack is an act of desperation, then you are put in the position of arguing that every other combatant in the Star Wars who has dodged an attack was also desperate, and by extension at the mercy of their opponent on a whim. Luke freed one hand and drove a finger-strike at Jacen's eyes. Sheev is considerably ahead of his opponents. Something popped and Luke felt himself going down. Come on now, Sidious ain't stomping 'em. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. Except Jacen was sliding backward, one hand extended behind him, using the Force to pull himself toward a tendril-draped rack in the far corner of the torture chamber. Add to cart . But he does win. And the Greatest Jedi to Ever Live. Good, Luke thought. Luke landed a snap-kick to the stomach that lifted Jacen a meter off the deck, then followed it with a slash to the neck-. And he was actually called grandmaster Skywalker! Jacen kicked at Luke's legs, catching the side of a knee. What point would there have been? ", "That's because he doesn't want you to feel him, "Ben said. Anyway, I agree with post #30. Before that, he broke off the engagement by retreating backwards when Luke had him on his knees after three hits. Blows came out of nowhere. For the second round, I think Jacenwith the help of guys as powerful as Vader and Dooku could beat Plagueis, or at least hold him off, while DE Luke can beat Tene. Nope. Re: Darth Caedus vs Cade Skywalker on September 12th 2019, 8:04 am I prefer Cade's ability to revive himself from the brink of death and then turn his foes minor injuries to … Luke started forward, his injured knee buckling each time he put weight on it. Sign in to check out Check out as guest . In my view, this completely contradicts the idea of Luke beating Caedus whenever he wishes. After the duel, Skywalker gave the clone's li… Versus Series Darth Vader VS Darth Caedus I don't own the movie footage in this, Star Wars is owned by Lucasfilm, Fox, and Disney. Luke blocked and spun inside, landing an elbow smash to the temple that dropped Jacen to his knees. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. Luke Force-hurled the light fixture off his back, then hobbled to his feet. Ironically, during a final confrontation between Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader and the Emperor aboard a mobile battle station known as the Death Star, the Sith lineage would end as Darth Bane prescribed that it proceed. Nowhere in this fight does it mention that Luke’s “barely healed” injuries prevented him from blocking any of Caedus’s attacks, nor did they prevent him from making effective counter-attacks of his own. Jacen began to slash his lightsaber up and down, cutting the vines away two and three at a time. [Luke] was, in fact, standing in the doorway of a secret cabin filled with Yuuzhan Vong torture devices, watching his twisted nephew taunt his captive son. The EU version was sooo much better. Still flying through the air, he raised his own hand, palm outward, and pushed the Force out through his arm to form a protective shield. Not debatable. Disney Star Wars Darth Vader vs Luke Skywalker Toy Action Figure Lot. "I don't think you'll need any help finding him, Jacen. Again, Luke mentions he needs to end the fight while he still has advantage, again reinforcing the argument that he can’t end the fight whenever he wishes to. Jacen dodging an attack from Luke does not equate to him being desperate and Luke being able to beat him in three moves on a whim. Grandmaster Luke Skywalker vs Darth Caedus. Luke caught another kick in his knee and found himself calling on the Force to keep his balance. Caedus only got in more reliable hits after poisoning Luke with the Embrace of Pain, something that would have dulled Luke's Force connection further. Luke spat out a mouthful of blood and Force-leapt after his nephew, at the same time reaching out to drag him back. Palpatine, without the greatest amount of difficulty. Which in my eyes, reinforces the notion that Caedus is in the same league as Luke as a combatant. Caedus then realized that his former lover, Tenel Ka, had turned her fleet against him during his attack on … He parried a weak slash at his thighs, then drew his blade up diagonally where his nephew's chest should have been. Luke Force-leapt after him, knowing that this Jacen- the Jacen he had caught torturing his son-would not hesitate to take Ben hostage... or to kill him. The duo has perfect teamwork and are determined to win. He hit with so much cracking and crashing that Luke worried the rack had broken, but the thin tendrils quickly entwined Jacen in a net of pulsing green. Luke limped forward, circling toward Jacen's trapped side. However, that is not the case. Add to Watchlist Unwatch. And he was actually called grandmaster Skywalker! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. If he wasn’t, even if he had dodged Luke’s attempted decapitation, I’m skeptical as to whether or not he’d be able to effectively injure the Grandmaster. Darth Krayt, born A'Sharad Hett, was a Human male who served as a Jedi Master in the waning days of the Galactic Republic. This is a notion which personally, I disagree with. He simply completed his pivot and landed a rib-crunching roundhouse. A tremendous crash sounded from the illumination panel, and the chamber fell instantly dark. But Jacen thrived on pain, fed on it to make himself stronger and faster. Team Darth Vader vs Team Luke Skywalker. He just sprang. He found himself pinned in place, trapped by a bed of thorns Jacen had hurled across the cabin. His hearing faded and his head began to spin, and he saw Jacen, one hand still raised to keep Luke pinned, sneering and taking his time rising. So If it seems like I’m emphasizing Caedus’s abilities that’s because I am, however that does not mean I think he surpasses Luke. Jacen momentarily engaged Luke again before Luke gained the upper hand, (though not before Jacen was able to deal Luke an injury to his knee.) He landed an elbow and felt a bone in Jacen's face shatter. Luke carries and Caedus is a good wing man. Dooku or Vader can stalemate tenebrous for the time needed for the rest of the team to destroy plagueis. He asked Mara for anything she could tell him about how to defeat Abeloth, but she had nothing—and then the spirit of Jacen Soloarrived as well. However, I do subscribe to the notion that, because of how fresh Luke’s injuries were, Caedus’s attacks which made contact with those areas may have done more damage than they would have otherwise. Possessing the full strength of his birthright as a first generation Skywalker descendant. That is all. Jacen screamed, and the smell of scorched bone and singed hair filled the air. ", Ben glimpsed a dark figure stepping into the doorway. Luke’s use of an eye gouge is seen by many as a cheap shot. The death of the clone Luuke caused a deranged Joruus C'baoth to go on a rampage. Jacen's eyes widened. Jacen launched himself over Luke in a high Force flip. Team Darth Caedus vs Team Superman. Jacen turned his head, but Luke's little finger scratched across something soft and bulbous. So all in all, I think the “environmental advantage” is insignificant in the context of this fight. He rolled beyond the reach of Jacen's lightsaber and looked back across the chamber. When he did not glimpse a face in the light of his own blade, Luke knew something was wrong and stopped. Jacen had caught him on the barely healed scar from his first fight with Lumiya, and now his breath was coming in short painful gasps. Nov 12, 2018 - Agreed Drake! Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. He would be trained by his uncle, Luke Skywalker at his Jedi Praxeum. Luke closed to within two meters without saying a word. In this moment, there was a golden opportunity for Caedus to finish Luke off. Superhero Class. He brought his lightsaber up to strike. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Ben cried from behind him. 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