I never even commented on the outcome. Tanking excessive lightning? CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money If you want to remove force storms, fine. echo....no....just...just no. My opinion is Revan, he is easily Sidious' equal in saber combat, as Revan had proficient knowledge of all 7 forms, this combined with his battle precognition and brilliant tactical mind give him an edge in my opinion. EDIT: For the record, this post doesn't amount to an attempt on my part to repudiate Revan's powers for the purpose of this thread. So darkside energy messed with his connection to the force. Although Vitiaite may be better than Revan in force abilities, he can't hold back on Revan either. By far. He killed Nyriss with her own lightning before she could throw up a barrier, actually. LOL @ all these writers in recent years describing a character, to paraphrase, "overcoming restrictions" by "surpassing light and dark." In this Star Wars Versus, we are pitting Darth Revan up against Darth Nihilus. - Revan Some of the most memorable dialogues are in this update. Maybe not in lightsaber combat, but his lightning overpowered him on multiple occasions during the fight. Unless you use convoluted scaling chains to wank Revan to absolute Hell and back (the same can be done for ROTS Sidious), there's not much of a reason for me to see Revan putting up much of a fight when I have him substantially below the likes of Outlander and Vaylin. There isn’t a straight line between windu and Revan. Why isn't this locked. Let me be clear, Sidious was more powerful than Revan, he did things Revan could never had done, and he knows more about the Dark Side than Revan. So, without further ado we present: Darth Vader vs. Darth Revan. The only other Sith that can contend with Nihilus are Vitiate and Sidious, as they know Force Hunger too and how to avoid it. Perhaps current Revan would give Sidious MILD trouble in a Force fight, but feat-wise, Sidious is just too fast for Revan and would speedblitz him to hell. In this Star Wars Versus, we are pitting Darth Revan up against Darth Nihilus. @i_like_swords: Is that so? The Holocron resembled the Temple of the Ancients, an ancient Rakatan structure on the planet Rakata Prime. Oh my... DarthAnt seems to have revived the Old Republic wank. I mean its kinda easy when your the only sith with some knowledge. - Satele Shan Sorry friends, Valkorion is way too powerful for [any] Jedi or Sith to handle alone. Personally while I love the Old Republic a lot more this is a matter of power which honestly Palpatine and Vader has in spades. Sidious could probably take on Revan and Malak simultaneously and at least stalemate. Keep in mind, this is combat only, Force Storms aren't usable in combat, as the power takes far too much attention from combat and requires too much focus on mustering the power necessary to use the ability. What makes you say Revan is a superior swordsman to Savage and especially Maul? In such an instance, if Yoda won, it would simply be one of those 5 times. This I disagree with. Intelligent, but that won't help much again Sidious and Revan's massive power. Never mind that the only way they ever even found Tenebrae's body was through Revan's Ghost guiding them. Second off, Maul has plenty of impressive dueling feats. Good arguments, all of you. It's not. I find that hard to believe. What do we know about Darth Vader? Revan's Force abilities aren't on the level of Vitiate. Sean Williams attempted a similar narrative route in The Force Unleashed, albeit in a more restrained and fleeting manner. The first fight he had with D.E. But once again, I'm ignorant on TOR Revan so I have to give you the benefit of the doubt until I start playing again. Yoda was also depicted as a superior swordsman in some sources. Regardless of era, there are only a select few that could even compare to Sidious to be fair. If Sidious was so powerful why did he have to handicap an already broken man so he won't be contested.if he is all that as you say Vader no matter how powerful wouldn't touch him. Bias is pretty much irrelevant because no matter how objectively you look at their feats (just search up their respect threads), Sidious' are better. You act as though Force Storm is a key component in his arsenal. Krayt has the skill and power to at least contend with sidious with a lightsaber and the force. The more important battle is this, Starforge vs death star, Sideous's reliance on purely dark side power holds him back. No one from the Old Republic era could defeat Sidious in a one-on-one either in a Force battle or a lightsaber duel... especially not a lightsaber duel. Sidious wasn't losing, though. and can fight a whole field of jedi/soldiers at once due to him sending multiple lightsabers around the battlefield to fight his opponents, meaning he can fight several battles with several skilled and trained people at one time, and win. For instance, we can list Yoda and Sidious winning 5/10 each in a sabers round. Arcann/Malgus/Revan Vader/Maul/Dooku Rules No In fighting Win by death No BFR Standard gear All lore allowed; Everyone is at their prime. LOL what makes you say Maul and Savage are even in Revans league when it comes to dueling? While not as powerful as Sidious, Revan IS in the same league an his skill with a blade is comparable. Sidious has less combat experience than Revan, and Revan is a more dedicated combative Force wielder (often chaining Force abilities into or between his lightsaber strikes). Revan could hold him off for quite a while but would be cautious to go on the offensive against such finesse in Form 5. I wonder what Valkorion has to say about that... That's a tad hyperbolas. I was just commenting on the quality of the idea itself, not the reality of it in Revan's story. Frankly, I overstepped my boundaries with Revan. More powerful, much more skilled, more unpredictable, and more ruthless. I mean let's see him try to fight real sith with experience in war then jedi that find droids a challengeand the sith he trained.let's see if can do the mastermind thing on the dark council. Yoda is obviously far more experienced than Palpatine and draws his saber far more often, but that hardly left him as the advantageous one in combat. I consider Revan stronger than rots era fighters because of muur representing a real threat to Palpatine post rots with either a weak ass Vader, Luke, or leia as host to his power by multiple sources. Who shall be the victor? Revan had plans for all Jedi. Superhero Class. In fact, Sidious vs Yoda is a pretty good example of that. Second sidious by feats is the most powerful sith to ever live he was one with the dark side so much he felt it would swallow him. In this respect, Revan and Sidious are put on even footing. I was in one of the special units trained to do this. Darth Nihilus, he would devour Revan dead in seconds. Sidious ragdolls Revan and it's not close. The Holocron's gatekeeper was a… Vaapad won`t be as effective as in Windu`s fight against Palpatine because Revan draws on the dark AND the light side of the … I was only talking about lightsaber skills. He also defeated Yoda with only moderate difficulty. Not necessarily. By the way in force lighting there advantage Sidious at best or equal at worst since he can not use for storm at will and needs an period of concentration and as shown in the comics that offers an opportunity for his vs opponent to act against him. Sidious couldn't even beat mace let alone the guy that saved the republic twice. Easily doesn't mean effortlessly. Who shall be the victor? :https://teespring.com/netalliance#pid=2\u0026cid=2122\u0026sid=frontSupport my channel on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/NetAllianceFollow me on Twitter:@netalliesSnap me on Snapchat:NET_ALLIANCELike my Page of FaceBook:http://www.facebook.com/netallianceonyoutube/ It was only an edgewise (and mostly off-topic) comment about a subject I rarely have a chance to discuss in the forums. Maul and Savage (especially Savage I mean WTF) are tiers below Revan. Whereas Vader bowed to Darth Sidious, Darth Revan was so powerful that he bowed to no one, becoming the sole leader of the Sith. So would Luke. Yoda was by far his closest challenger. And he still beat him decisively. To be fair, some sources do seem to suggest Yoda > Sidious slightly in lightsaber combat, alone, but I'd hardly say that's due to experience. Essentially revan is going to be lucky if the fight doesn't just go like this. Kill a tired qui gon then get cocky over it? Plus the man drove the True sith from their home world singlehandley. As for Force abilities, Revan is a master combative Force user. Revan has better feats than matching ROTS Sidious, deflecting a blast from him while distracted, holding off his lightning while tired and disarming him in a duel? I'd say he's comfortably above Revan in all categories save for durability. The fact he could even contend with jedi jesus is proof hes a step above revan. , who is pretty much the only one in Revan's era who can be reasonably compared to Palpatine as a Force user. What's maul done that's so impressive? Ertwin. Luke had him stomping, and in the next he was stomped by an amped Luke. You do know revan was so strong in the darkside he could tempt you just by being present. MUCH TIME PASS "Today WE defeated the most evil and destructive being in history." Yeah, they were equals, it was hardly Sidious winning with moderate effort. (Dooku somewhat if you take that one statement Yoda made whilst Mace was weakend into account but I can't see this honestly myself.). Jan 8, 2020 #23 And need i remind you of the time that revan vaporized someone who had trained in and studied the dark side her whole life and was considered the second most powerful sith of the time, straight vaporized her on the spot, with nothing but force energy. Anyone dooku and above could take these two on with medium difficulty and when Mauls out the game it's over. Darth Revan's Sith Holocron, also known as the Holocron of Darth Revan, was created by Dark Lord of the Sith Revan in the shape of a four-sided pyramid. He’s an abomination that just eats. Nox, Wrath, THOT or Barsen'Thor) with the aid of Satele Shan and Darth Marr, who are comparable to Savage, and some none-Force users and gave them hell. Majority of sources suggest that they are just as skilled as one another, and that Palpatine is at least as powerful as Yoda. And TUF is still the only story that did it right and did it creatively; every other writer that's tried to follow TUF's footsteps seems to have misunderstood what TUF actually revealed about the Force and end up butchering the universal concept the book posited. The Sith Lord's Holocron was slightly larger than a Human's hand and, unlike most Sith holocrons, was adorned with only a few Sith symbols. If I may, as far as force powers go, Revan is not limited to dark side or light side and therefore cannot be classified as jedi or sith, he walks both paths and was once described as being the heart of the force. Plus everyone in the new era are watered down versions of the old republic sith and jedi.Sidious is not stonger then most of the old sith he wouldn't beat any of those people. He couldn't not with those sith he'll die in a flash. I'm referring to Valkorion, in the very prime of his powers. For hundreds of years, Darth Revan tore through his enemies with ease. SnowxElf Re: Mace Windu vs SOR Revan Anakin has less experience than Dooku, Bane has less experience than Kas'im, Luke has less experience than Vader; didn't stop them from beating their respective adversaries. The same goes for experience, a vastly overrated element of fights - how many times have less experienced people beaten more experienced ones by virtue of sheer power? Revan is so powerful if he has a force vision everyone around him can see it too. Revan is a Dooku/Vader/Bane level character (in no particular order) and although this thread is ridiculous (comparing Revan to Sideous) your statement just makes a bad thread worse. III, but Palpatine had much more destructive capacity than Yoda did. And the jedi of your era are way softer then the one's in the old republic. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I should probably stop talking about Revan until I start playing again. In a straight up fight, who wins? Twilight vampires are fast and strong, but they can't begin to compare to the power of the Sith, or Asajj Ventress's skill. Bonus) I don't know if there is any sith who would take a majority but i'd say Krayt. echo....no....just...just no. Who fought the mandleorians who was conquering world's for 10 years.it's like day and night i don't see Sidous winning in any capacity.he just never been thorough what revan has it just makes him better, Mace is a hard counter for Sidious. The fight was not the hardest he ever had. While their stories are similar, Darth Revan went even further than Vader. Bias is pretty much irrelevant because no matter how objectively you look at their feats (just search up their respect threads), Sidious' are better. He just beat him even when he took the force of 8 jedi and was powered by the starforge.Revan was a jedi again at this time. Maul and Savage (especially Savage I mean WTF) are tiers below Revan. Darth Revan vs Jedi Knight Revan. At least by the time of DE, he's substantially better. My post really had very little to do with him at all and more to do with a conceit developed in a number of EU stories. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? During and long after Order 66, Vader fought with Imperial forces to systematically destroy the Jedi Order. Sidious backhands Revan into becoming non-Force sensitive and then disintegrates him with an eyeflick. Darth nihilus vs Darth revan STAR WARS Discussion. Dracula is the only real threat, but if he can feel pain, he'd be pretty vulnerable to Force lightning. And regardless of whether Luke was amped or not, he defeated him. Perhaps their TK was more or less comparable during Ep. Yoda was definitely able to stay toe-to-toe with Sidious for the most part, but his only real "blows" to Palpatine were his surprise Force Push and his tutaminis, and the latter was at his own expense since he was blown off the pod as well. It's enough to outclass Revan completely, but he'd have much harder time fighting two Revan teir opponents simultaneously. TCW Sidious was able to simultaneously toy with Maul and Savage, both of whom are above Revan in terms of lightsaber combat. Etymology. He was able to do what Vader did, but even greater. I don't know much about Nox, Wrath, etc. So even if Sideous did win, it would be far from easy. Find him in the NJO books, the Fate of the Jedi books, the Legacy of the … I would give it 6/10 to Anakin. But I do agree Sidious beats two Revans at once, just not easily. Let me know in the comments below! @darthbane77: Still Sidious, and still every time. I shouldn't have been making arguments against Revan since I'm not caught up with current Revan. March 21, 2019 12:45AM. Not necessarily. If anything, Mace was at least as much of a challenge for Sidious if not more. And need i remind you of the time that revan vaporized someone who had trained in and studied the dark side her whole life and was considered the second most powerful sith of the time, straight vaporized her on the spot, with nothing but force energy. Why is this still going on ? Though in terms of raw power and knowledge Sidious trumps Revan. Vader nor Sidious can do that. Just wanted to see where everyone landed. Savage isn't even close to being above Revan, and Maul is probably behind as well. Revan has better knowledge of a wider variety of forms than Anakin, but Anakin specialises better in duelling, I think. The reality is, Revan is a master of all aspects of the Force, whether it be light, dark, or whatever else the TOR staff makes up, and I acknowledge that. I can't believe people are seriously entertaining the notion that Revan has even a ghost of a chance of winning a fair fight between him and Palpatine. For instance, we can list Yoda and Sidious winning 5/10 each in a sabers round. Granted, they are definitely top tier duelists, but that doesn't mean top tier is one level, if you know what I mean. This is not something that originated in TOR; writers have been attempting that since just after the release of The Unifying Force. In such an instance, if Yoda won, it would simply be one of those 5 times. III. Because Sidious is just better. Palpatine stomps. Regardless, Maul is not tiers below Dooku, Vader, or Bane so either way, Maul at least would give Revan a run for his money. Palpatine disintegrates him with a mere thought. But I do agree Sidious beats two Revans at once, just not easily. Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. It was a sight to behold to see all of his victims emerge to vanquish him (or his essence) for good. You can't just remove force power from combat abilities. No outside interference Environment - start 100ft from each other Darth Sidious Sheev Palpatine: 4.1 K: Darth Vader Anakin Skywalker: 1.3 K: Darth Nihilus Unknown: 733 K: Darth Krayt A’Sharad Hett: 1.6 M: Darth Caedus Jacen Solo: 2.2 M: Darth Revan Revan… Personally I think some of you underestimate Revan's abilities in comparison to Sidious' but everybody's a little biased about something or other. The assassination attempt on the Sith Emperor was a mission carried out by the Jedi Masters Revan and Meetra Surik, with help from Sith Lord Scourge and droid T3-M4 to eliminate the Sith Emperor, the Dark Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the reconstituted Sith Empire. And Sidious is certainly more powerful than the novel iteration of Vitiate. He also defeated Yoda with only moderate difficulty who is not only far better than Revan with a lightsaber, but also much more talented and experienced with the Force. Now, who wins? but they're really not. @shootingnova: To be fair, some sources do seem to suggest Yoda > Sidious slightly in lightsaber combat, alone, but I'd hardly say that's due to experience. Well, although that was a hyperbole, I do not think two "Revan-tier" opponents would give Sidious much trouble. Concerning force powers, Revan should be at Windu`s level. Overpowering ventress with brute strength mostly? Sidious is a confirmed master of all 7 forms of lightsaber combat {which, including Juyo, requires him to be a "high end" master of at least "multiple" forms} according to The Complete Clone Wars Episode Guide. 961 posts Member. Anakin has less experience than Dooku, Bane has less experience than Kas'im, Luke has less experience than Vader; didn't stop them from beating their respective adversaries. The statements you're referring to completely disregard non-canon sources and really only take into account the movies. Sidious has absolutely no way of locating it. Yoda was also depicted as a superior swordsman in some sources. Yoda has a slight edge in dueling, palp has a slight edge in the force. Revan is probably a bit of a midpoint between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ten time out of ten times, yes, but I don't think he could effortlessly stomp Revan if Valkorian/Vitiate was unable to do so. "So Revan trained elite Sith units into assassination squads, whose duty was to go out and capture enemy Jedi. Omeah. Savage isn't even close to being above Revan, and Maul is probably behind as well. Revan <<< vitiate << valkorian < plageuis < sidious. He beat her 3 times while she was powered by the star forge. TCW Sidious was able to simultaneously toy with Maul and Savage, both of whom are above Revan in terms of lightsaber combat. And he never defeated Yoda with moderate difficulty, the fight was the hardest he ever had and the two were almost equals. This is a tired concept and a pretty obtuse, uninspired, and poorly explained one at that. First off, I corrected myself. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Revan didn't have to do that to Malak. The word Sith was first used in the 1974 rough draft of Star Wars with the first published use being the 1976 novelization of Star Wars as a title for the key villain Darth Vader, the "Dark Lord of the Sith".Sith characters had also been portrayed as such in some Star Wars Legends works prior to the release of The Phantom Menace, and in archived footage for the original Star Wars. Let me be clear, Sidious was more powerful than Revan, he did things Revan could never had done, and he knows more about the Dark Side than Revan. However, I stand by my statement that Malak is below Maul AND Savage in terms of lightsaber combat. Once the former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader allied with the Sith Lord Darth Sidious during the rise of his Empire. Who was the strongest jedi of her era. By hardest, I mean closest. Revan is a Dooku/Vader/Bane level character (in no particular order) and although this thread is ridiculous (comparing Revan to Sideous) your statement just makes a bad thread worse. Revan vs. Windu would be a pretty fair match in my opinion. I’ll Give you a Shout Out!Like and Subscribe for tomorrow’s Video!----------------------------------------------------------------NET ALLIANCE MERCH! © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Please remember to Like, Subscribe and Turn on your Notifications for more Star Wars Videos!Versus Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr61F5DIlB4\u0026list=PL386bwYsgSwRVL9Zdgw5svVO4BUJTU1oP\u0026index=34\u0026t=1sRemember to Leave a Future Video Suggestion in the Comments Below! Revan vs Darth Vader (Legends) Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) vs Revan. Sideous's reliance on purely dark side power holds him back, and he has limited knowledge of even its true potential as much knowledge was lost by that time, Sideous may be able to extend his life through clones of himself, but Revan was able to substain himself on purely force energy for several hundred years, while being drained by vitiate, and without any need for clones. Whats Savages best feat? Sidious by the way can actually use an lightsaber quite well Valkorian is not able to do that. This is a PURELY COMBATIVE scenario, which of the two uses their combative Force abilities and lightsaber skills better. For example, Dooku and Sidious may be top tier, but Sidious is still a much higher tier than Dooku in terms of everything, really. We are using pre KOTOR Darth Revan R1: Darth Revan and Malak vs Darth Treya, Darth Sion, and Darth Nihilus R2: Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs Darth Sion & Darth Nihilus (no Traya) ... but Nihilus isn’t really a Sith at this point. I wouldn't say easily. While Sidious holds a vaster knowledge, and more finesse. Revan holds experience as well as a brilliant strategic mind and his precognition, easily making him Sidious' equal in a combative sense. Sidious wins, easily. It's also obvious that Luke would be superior to Palpatine later on. I know writers think they're being profound when they have a character say things like, "I've grown beyond your layman ways, Jedi; I use both sides of the Force...at once!" Revan's strategic ability and precognition doesn't bring anything to the table that compensates for his vast physical and power inferiority, nor does it bring anything that Palpatine can't handle. It should be noted, though, that I agree that Revan is superior to either Maul or Savage over all. He simply outclasses Revan in the Force; there's no debate to be had. Sidious could probably take on Revan and Malak simultaneously and at least stalemate. Revan's Force abilities aren't on the level of Vitiate, who is pretty much the only one in Revan's era who can be reasonably compared to Palpatine as a Force user. Revan- renowned as the Revanchist, honored as the Revan, reviled as Revan the Butcher, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and praised as the Prodigal Knight - was a Human male who played pivotal roles as both Jedi and Sith in the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. Vitiate had the combined force energy of at least one entire planet, and at the time had dominated every person who resisted him mentally, except Revan, and Revan very well could have won his battle with vitiate if not for a Dumb A** Sith acting on the wrong force vision. Let me know in the comments below! Team Revan vs Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) & Valkorion. The ONLY abilities that matter in combat are combat-centric abilities, Sidious opening wormholes is IRRELEVANT, as it could not be done in combat because it took too much focus. He was doing better than Yoda. This would be hotly contested, and honestly any answer could be right but it depends on what views we actually have. Perhaps up until that point, but his most difficult fight would be Luke in DE... seeing as he lost... And I'm sure SOME sources say Yoda is superior to Palpatine in lightsaber combat, but he was at best equal to Sidious in Ep. Re: Valkorion vs Luke Skywalker and Darth Sidious on December 11th 2020, 2:54 am @SnowxElf wrote: I'm afraid not, you need to read the panels in more detail, Leia was already joined with Luke when Luke was dueling Palpatine. He went toe-to-toe with Yoda, who is arguably the greatest lightsaber duelist in history {Fight Saber} and arguably the greatest master of the Force {Everything You Need To Know About Star Wars}; he humiliated Darth Maul, one of the most highly trained and skilled Sith in history {Star Wars Fact File 01}, and Savage Opress, who could contend with and defeat members of the Jedi Council {who are the "best" fighters of the Order according to The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia}, at the same time; and he slaughtered three of the Jedi order's "most celebrated swordmasters" {The Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary} who were each, in Obi-Wan Kenobi's opinion {and not contradicted by Yoda(! Way to lowball. Sidious is literally lightyears ahead of Revan in every category. At best, I'd say they're even. By far. I am not at all caught up on TOR lore. At the end of the day, Vitiate's schemes were far grander in scale than Palaptine's ever were. The fact that he fought a Maul level duelist(i.e. @shootingnova: Don't let Ant hear you, Nova. Statements from Lucas and numerous writers place Him, Mace, and sidious as the toptier duelists. Still Palpatine in a very one sided matchup. Personally, as I said before, I think Revan's tactical genius and precognition make up for his somewhat lower skill with a blade (though he is still an absolute master duelist). Sidious would stomp both Revan and Malak at once with relative ease with or without Force Storm. As for his Force abilities, Revan is easily on Sidious' level, while not as knowledgeable as Sidious overall, Revan is still incredibly knowledgeable. Where is @Dccomicsrule2011: with one of his WWE shaking head gifs? And he never defeated Yoda with moderate difficulty, the fight was the hardest he ever had and the two were almost equals. The idea of using both the light and dark side in simultaneity is still stupid. Moderate probably wasn't the right word. Sidious has gone head's-up with Yoda and Luke and is the most powerful Sith lord in existence, ever.If you want to remove force storms, fine. Darth Caedus vs Revan # Revan Jedi Grandmaster Luke Skywalker of the New Jedi Order. I suppose it's debatable, but I do not see how Yoda would have a slight edge over Palpatine in dueling. )}, among the greatest Jedi duelists ever, in the prime of the Jedi per George Lucas. And Palpatine is not slightly better than Yoda in terms of Force. A whole school of sith masters and apprentices.They came back 300 years later.Plus he deafeated what i would say is the equal if not better of Anakin of his time bastilla shan. Both of this is wrong. Both of this is wrong. 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