If not, ensure all. The Factorio devs plan some refactoring for the upcoming version 0.17. Water: is a liquid which can be infinitely extracted from water tiles using an offshore pump; Steam: is a gas you can create by heating water in a boiler or heat exchanger; Other Factorio Guides: Boiler to Steam Ratio; Solar Panel Ratio; Console Commands & Cheats There are mods that can add landfill tiles to existing blueprints if you're up for modding and using a blueprint rather than making your own reactor, and this design is one of my favourites - not objectively "best" perhaps, but has a certain elegance that I deeply appreciate alongside a decent serving of entirely respectable practicality. If you want a ratio that's a little easier to remember, those are probably your best bet. Electricity has to be produced before it can be transferred to consumers over the electric system. Using steam engines for power does not produce pollution, however using boilers to heat up the water does. You can sideload water for a 1.1 GW plant. Heat exchanger heats 15C water to 500C steam; It takes 0.2 kJ of burner energy to raise 1 water 1C; Steam is consumed by steam turbines at a rate of 60 units per second; (500C - 15C) 0.2 kJ 60 units = 5820 kW, or 5.82 MW. These include the power generation of a solar panel, the energy storage of an accumulator, the length of a day, and the length of a night. Or so. When producing power, the steam engine will display a working animation: https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Steam_engine&oldid=188232. They produce electricity by consuming steam, using water pumped from an offshore pump that was heated to 165C steam with boilers or to 500C steam with heat exchangers. See also the applied power math tutorial to answer the question how much coal do I need? There's no clear ratio as you need to account for heat bonus from other reactors but it's quite easy to calculate yourself, if you fuel the reactors it will show you produced heat in MW (with bonus) you just sum up all reactors and divide by heat exchanger power (all power/power per 1 hear exchanger) to get the number, then you do the same for turbines (all power/power per 1 turbine). The lake under the oil field looks like a nice place, letting you place offshore pumps near the center, with the turbines extending to land. Additional comment actions. by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:42 pm, Post Id probably put it on or next to either of the lakes in the middle north or middle south. This can be extended as far as you want; every additional 2 reactors will provide an additional 320 megawatts of heat output. (100% neighbor bonus per adjacent reactor). and another post in that thread (which calculates the solar panel to megawatt ratio in a different way). 75 crafting speed, while the induction furnaces use 3 * 1, so the ratio could be fine tuned a bit. Don't ask me how that works.). The steam production rate can also be calculated using the energy consumption: 1 Heat exchanger consumes 10MW, so it's putting 10,000,000 joule of energy into heating water/steam per second. Don't ask me how that works.) Thus, they can buffer 500 MJ of heat energy across their working range of 500C to 1000C, and require 485 MJ of energy to warm up from 15C to 500C when initially placed. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. One boiler consumes 1. There are multiple methods to produce electricity: Each steam engine needs 0.5 boilers when running at full capacity. Steam engines will automatically adjust their power production and steam usage based on the current demands of the electricity network. All rights reserved. Optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump for every 20 steam turbines; or, 25 offshore pumps for every 291 heat exchangers. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. (Except that you can potentially turn 8 gigajoules of uranium fuel cell into 40 gigajoules of heat. using 3 pumps and a tank, you can feed 28 heat exchangers. Nuclear power plants mostly need a lot of water. Factorio version: 1.1 Downloaded by: 1.88K users WHAT IS OFFSHORE P.U.M.P.S.? As each heat exchanger produces 10 MW, the optimal ratio is 500 steam turbines for every 291 heat exchangers. This ratio is. In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. This layout produces 40 MW output ( 1 SRE ). A heat exchanger produces 10 MJ a second, therefore it produces 10MJ / 0.097MJ = 103.0927835 steam per second. 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Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free), Frequently Suggested / Link Collections, https://wiki.factorio.com/Power_product lear_power, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/AdvancedNuclear3, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/LandfillEverything. It produces 1200 units of water per second. Ratio of reactors to whatever is 2x2 480MW reactor to 10MW heat exchanger, ratio of reactors to miners is 1:4 iirc, so double that miners, You will need 1x2 chunks space near water, so anywhere, maybe next to Oil Field's Uranium patch. Build the reactor over a lake, with careful placement of landfill you can have pumps directly feeding each end of the heat exchanger line. by astroshak Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:58 am, Post These fuel cells are then burned in a nuclear reactor to create heat. u/asdjfsjhfkdjs calculated the convergents of 500:291, and found that 7 : 4 and 55 : 32 are both fairly accurate approximations. 4 Heat Exchangers boil 412.36 Water to Steam per second (103.09 per Heat Exchanger ). can you post a screenshot/blueprint? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Heat exchangers have different dynamics to actual pipes. Heat pipes (also in reactors and heat exchangers) glow with high temperatures. One steam engine consumes 900kW of energy stored in steam, so each boiler can supply 2 steam engines: 1.8MW 0.9MW = 2. Is steam able to reach all steam engines? Then have a simple trigger than turns your nuclear plant on and off based on the storage tank steam levels. There are also times between day and night called dusk and dawn which complicate the calculations. The heat exchanger exchanges heat between a heat connection and water to produce steam . The current optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines. 1 electric pump can keep up with rate of roughly 10 water pumps if i recall, so at least you don't need to have pump and waterpump flows in parallel. Valve Corporation. I get that offshore pumps produce 1200 units of water per second. The current optimal ratio is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines. by Honktown Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:52 pm, Post Since heat exchangers consume 103.1 water each, a few dozen seems reasonable if . One pump can supply up to 20 boilers. factorio offshore pump heat exchanger ratio Connect water tank to exchanger for exactly 25k units water. However I want to do a different configuration and want to plan out how many of each type of component I need. What I can't find is how much water a heat exchanger *consumes* to produce the 103ish steam per second. Perfectly optimal solar network (Factorio forums), 1 solar panel produces 42KW after factoring in the night (Factorio forums), https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Power_production&oldid=182968. Does the game consider 1 water = 1 steam (just a different temperature?) by disentius Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:36 pm, Post The most heat exchangers I've been able to fit on a single length of heat pipe is 30 heat exchangers on 44 heat pipes; any more than that incurs significant heat loss. Exchanger outputs to 2 tanks. makes troubleshooting easier. What does clicking on an item's icon in the "Factory" tab do? Designed for supporting scaled up machines from "Schall Machine Scaling" mod. Heat exchangers produce ~103 steam with a temperature of 500C every second. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Remember that water in pipes still obeys Factorio physics; if you pipe your water a long distance, you may not get the full 1200/s. Each offshore pump outputs 1200 units of water per second. where game_day is the number of seconds in the game day which is 25000/60 s by default. Finally, after 20 hours of work, I present the flowchart for Pyanodon Space Science! I have been reading all about Nuclear power so I can convert my factory. If the only effect the mod has on the game is it changes the total length of one day, without changing the ratio of dusk: day: dawn: night, then the equation can be simplified as. Includes pipe, pipe to ground, pump, offshore pump, heat pipe. Hovering the mouse over a steam engine will display their current power production (Performance) and their possible power production (Available Performance), in a display on the right. fox hill country club membership cost. 40 MW of power output is consumed by 4 Heat Exchangers (10MW per Heat Exchanger ). Each heat exchanger converts 103 water to 103 steam, feeding 1.72 turbines. by mrvn Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:45 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Are there enough steam generators (boilers, heat exchangers)? Heat exchangers have a heat capacity of 1 MJ/C. 20. Factorio version: 0.17 - 1.1 Downloaded by: 6.01K users Summary Adds scaled up versions in different sizes for various pipes and pumps. Each uranium fuel cell will power a nuclear reactor for 200 seconds. So the 50,000C are enough to heat up 103 units of steam per second, since 50,000 / 485 = 103.09. (Low quality because reddit wouldn't let me upload the full png) redditads Promoted. Hence, each water pump can support a maximum of 40 steam generators. Refer to Francis John play through video on YouTube on nuclear power. If I know how much energy i'm outputting from my reactors -> figure out how many turbines -> figure out how many heat exchangers -> How many pumps do I need? which, given the default time lengths of: day = 12500/60 s; dawn or dusk = 5000/60 s; night = 2500/60 s, and the default: Solar_power = 60 kW; Accumulator_energy = 5 MJ = 5000 kJ, gives the optimal ratio of 0.84 accumulators per solar panel. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Tutorial:Main bus. Steam that has a higher temperature than the maximum temperature of the steam engine (165C) is consumed at the normal rate (30 units/s), and does not yield more electricity. Added high graphics quality option for the steam engine. SmartAlec105 having more than 2 steam engines per boiler could do that. The flow between pipes and heat exchangers is also different to pump to heat exchangers. chrisgbk 6 yr. ago Technically the HX consumes the water and outputs an equal amount of steam. For each 100% neighbor bonus, the reactor needs 4 more heat exchangers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Factorio - The Best Nuclear Power Ratio To generate ten fuel cells, you will need one U-235 cell and nineteen U-238 cells. Yes, there is also a maximum throughput for water that depends on the distance the . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Originally posted by Alaskan Glitch: The ratio is one water pump will supply a maximum of 20 boilers with water. In general, nuclear power is produced by the following production chain: Uranium ore is mined and processed to uranium-235 and uranium-238, then uranium fuel cells are created from the two. The heat exchanger exchanges heat between a heat connection and water to produce steam. In vanilla factorio, without mods which change any of these values, the optimal ratio will be the same. You can also have some steam tanks with additional turbines for power spikes (laser turrets etc) as reactors always work with 100% power tanks will store steam when you're not using it all), Factorio Cheat Sheet - That's all the information you need. Additional comment actions. A heat exchanger consumes 10 MW. by Bauer Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:04 pm, Post The main thing to remember is that Factorio generally follows the laws of thermodynamics; if your nuclear reactor produces 40 megawatts of heat, you can get a maximum of 40 megawatts of electricity out the other side. It's recommended to build them near or on bodies of water, as that lets you place offshore pumps where ever you want. So you have 10 + 12 = 22 pipes. So I've run into an issue with water for my Turbines. by Amarula Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:45 pm, Post I wasn't sure if Heat exchanger converts 1 water into 1 steam and there is nothing written in its tooltip. Now you have 0 waste of fuel. Not sure where you got those numbers from, but in 0.15, small pumps and offshore pumps pump at exactly the same rate: 1200 fluid/s. 1 25k tank water disconnected from water input. Steam that has a higher temperature than the maximum temperature of the steam engine (165C) is consumed at the normal rate (30 units/s), and does not yield more electricity. r/factorio . turbines, exchangers and reactor ratios will vary due to neighbor bonuses. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://wiki.factorio.com/Tutorial:Nuclear_power#Neighbor_bonus. An offshore pump produces 1200 units of water per second, which is enough for 116.4 MW. Also, the optimal ratio is: 1 offshore pump / 14 boilers / 10 steam engines is that 10 for each boiler? However you did warn me: Save often and reload if necessary during landfilling. The throughput of a fluid pipe depends on the length of said pipe, but you can put in pumps to pressurize the pipe and increase the throughput. Yogi Berra. Steam engines have two ports, allowing excess steam to flow through. Is there any info about how much water per second Heat Exchangers use? As shown, making the heat pipes thicker allows supporting heat exchangers that are farther away. The true value comes from the following facts: It takes 1 kilojoule of thermal energy to raise 5 units of water/steam 1 C, You've heated water from 15 C to 500 C; 500 - 15 = 485, Consuming steam in turbines gives you the same amount of energy back as electricity, Steam is consumed by steam turbines at a rate of 60 units/second. They produce electricity by consuming steam, using water pumped from an offshore pump that was heated to 165C steam with boilers or to 500C steam with heat exchangers. Fresh water is at 15C while the steam produced by heat exchangers and consumed by steam turbines is at 500C, a difference of 485C, so you need 1 unit of water for each 97kJ, which is roughly 10.3 units per MJ. This page was last edited on 13 September 2019, at 23:48. This link for calculations. The true maximally efficient layout is a 2 by X rectangle; this gives you access to every reactor. The heat can be used to convert water to steam using a heat exchanger and the steam can be consumed by steam turbines to produce power. P UMPING U NITS M EETING P HYSICS S TANDARDS This mod started off as a project to sustain my most eco-unfriendly excessive water needs by implementing some Higher Tier Offshore Pumps. The above ratio can be calculated from information available in-game: One boiler consumes 1.8MW of fuel and produces energy stored in steam at 100% efficiency. If the player uses mods which change the power generation of solar panels, or the energy storage of accumulators, but not the length of days, a simplified version of this equation can be used. For more information, please see our The technical implementation details of Factorio's pipe system still have some room for improvement. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. Click on an empty cell to place a nuclear power plant. It must be placed on a shoreline of a body of water on the map, and connected to a pipe or other object that accepts liquids. Post They only work when they're above 500 C, and have a maximum temperature of 1000 C. Temperatures above 500 don't increase efficiency; the exchanger will just store the heat, which it can then use later. A powered nuclear reactor outputs 40 megawatts of heat, plus an additional 40 megawatts for each powered nuclear reactor directly adjacent to it. 120 MW ^Note: Pumps, Steam Turbines and Power are approximate for easier build ratios. I've confirmed that the true value is indeed 5.82, and updated everything accordingly. This equation could also be used to remember the vanilla optimal ratio given its simplicity. One exchanger 3 storage tanks plus inf heat. This means that you need 1.428 MW of production (of solar panels) and 100MJ of storage to provide 1 MW of power over one day-night cycle. -adding a second off-shore pump to start off with twice as much water (in theory); -putting in more pumps, say one pump for every underground pipe; -putting in a complete second line from off-shore pump to heat exchangers with a pump every 5 underground pipes. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If your heat pipe is too long, your reactors will max out at 1000 C before your heat exchangers can reach a steady state of 500 C, and and you'll start to waste heat. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Any experiences/suggestions/comments are welcome. Neighbor bonuses make nuclear very efficient: 1 reactor = 40MW = 4 exchangers = 7 turbines, 2 reactor = 160MW = 16 exchangers = 28 turbines, 4 reactor = 480MW = 48 exchangers = 83 turbines. The maximum length of heat pipe you can use depends on the combined distance of your heat exchangers from your reactors. by eradicator Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:43 pm, Post 1 Answer. If you overbuild reactors, you can end up wasting a lot of fuel cells without realizing it. How do you set up a reactor to get enough water to keep producing steam? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. So far I have built/replaced 3 reactor sectors to be on the lake rather than beside the lake, and I am pretty happy with the results (600 fewer pipes, 800 fewer underground pipes). 412.36 Water requires 1 ( 0.34) Offshore Pumps (1200 per Offshore Pump ).